Voices on AI: Using AI Like a Kung Fu Master with Dr. Carl Lejuez

In this episode I’m joined by one of the most brilliant scientists, leaders, and visionaries I know — Dr. Carl Lejuez, Provost of Stony Brook University. He is a former clinical psychology mentor of mine who had a huge impact on my career and taught me a lot about leadership.

In this conversation, we discuss: 

  • What does AI mean for the future of education and leadership? 

  • How can AI be used strategically to enhance our abilities as students and leaders? 

  • The real challenges students are facing with AI — especially first-generation college students–and why leadership has a responsibility to guide them through it

  • Practical advice for parents, including how families can use AI together with intention and clear values

Dr. Carl Lejuez: So one of the rules that we have at the university, in the way we're trying to think about AI is it should never be the first thing and it should never be the last thing. What does that mean? So if, if you want to use AI effectively, you have to put a lot of thought into what you put into AI first; if you are sloppy, if you are sort of shallow, what you're going to get back is going to be sloppy and shallow…and then the other piece of it is, and then what you get back if you hand that to someone without interrogating it and looking at it and editing it, and and then, you know, sort of like Plato, you've done it wrong too. That's what I mean by it should never be the first thing and it should never be the last thing it is. It is a process in the middle. It's really just connecting you at the start and the end, but in ways that you've never thought about before.

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